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Sunday, January 25, 2015

My Lifetime of Poverty



Sorry, long post, but if you want to read about poverty, starvation, wife assault, and ACON abuse this is it.

When I entered the ACON online world, it came with a bang.  There was no feelings of normalcy there, it threw me for a loop.  There was such a huge difference between the day before my awakening and after, the turn around was 180 degrees.  I remember thinking, this can't be real.  I went to the liquor store and bought 4 marguaritas, drank three, then passed out on the couch.

Yes mother was a horrible person, no more denying that, but better than that there was a whole new world to explore.  Both those thoughts came together as one.  I learned too that poverty was real and I met, for what seemed to be for the first time of my life, some poor people.  I was wondering, "Where the heck have you guys been all my life."  There were never any poor people around me and I had been poorer than poor for most of my life.  With no one to hold my hand.

I feel so connected to the poor now.  I work at a food bank, and I can see the pain of poverty, and I try to do all I can to give comfort.  I know everything that is needed in that state.  They need a hot cup of tea, a place to sit down, a paper that they fill out.  I am proud to say that our clients fill out their own list of needs, not me.  "Do you need this, do you need that?"  To me that was the most degrading question.  I felt horrible all the time and degraded when I was a client.  And I never doubted that is what they wanted me to feel.  They seemed to probe for more degradation, demoralization.

Some people will tell you that there is no shame in being poor.  Really?  What planet are you on.  Of course there is shame, even from the one who is supposed to love you.  It makes you a low value person, very, very helpless and stupid.  Let's be realistic here.  Why didn't anyone actually connect to me?  Why did they sit all happy and tell me that and ask me a huge list of invasive questions.  Early on realized that you weren't allowed boundaries when your poor.

The first thing I did to change the food bank in my area in with asking the question of the clients, "Why are you here again?" Just stop asking that question, go make them a tea, and go get the food. That question is invasive, and traumatizing to someone is is already suffering a trauma.  Let it be.  I always hated that question.  And when I was in need I would lie about it if I had to.  I might still have some starchy food left in my cupboards, but I am not going to say that, in case they sent me home empty handed.  Their starches were always better.

I have been to the place where there was nothing in the cupboards.  On the verge of starvation. Absolutely nothing to eat at all.  Near dinnertime was a panic.  I have never been to a soup kitchen, but I got very clever with some random flour in the cupboard.  There is a bannock bread, just requiring flour and baking powder.  I've made a meal out of that.  Cornmeal, whatever.  I was always on my own, even when I had a husband.  Husband just expected his dinner, and was oblivious to what I would make it, or even cared.  Yes, seriously.  He ate the bannock bread and freaked if he didn't get enough syrup.

But really there is no shame in being poor.  It is a crampy feeling but yes its true.  It doesn't make us low value people either.  A high value person always has something to give in regards to emotional resources, and that is hard to find.  But try to hold on to your emotional resources when your in a state of poverty.  It is very hard.  It seemed to me that the really needy people were there ones who volunteered at the food bank.  They seemed to like to hear that I couldn't feed my family.  This is a rant.  They liked me to say that I couldn't feed my family.  They do not need to be asking invasive questions.  If you feel that you have to answer them in case you get no food, then lie to them whatever.  You have my permission to do so.  No one is going to take advantage of a food bank. Seriously, they walk for miles to carry back a couple of bags of food.  Even in the dead of winter. Even if they take advantage, of course those people do exist, they do not count in with the actual people who need it.  I seem to rant about the very people who are there to help.  But in my very honest opinion, yes, they are there to help, but sometimes I swear they glorify in it!

It seemed like my ex-husbands kept us poor too.  Abusive to the hilt and they didn't always need to be physical to abuse me.  I was afraid people here would think I left my ex's because they had no money, but that wasn't true at all.  In fact, if they were poor and loving, that would have been great.  If we were in this thing together, that would have changed everything.  Perhaps, I could have had my awakening a lot sooner.  I was never about the money.  In fact, when I got involved with my second ex, he said all we need is food on the table and I agreed.  Heck, was I stupid.  Food on the table, which mainly came from charity.  That's ok, he used to say, we have actually earned it.  And I thought we were in this together.  That I had a protector, a man, a true soul.

You know all that would be fine.  I would be great with it.  Food pantries, no problem.  Sure we were malnurished most of the time, but it would have been great to have someone hold my hand.  But, he was cruel.  To me and the children.  In fact, I remember everyone around me saying such a great guy he was.  We had friends we would go visiting.  For just one example of his abuse, he would order me to help a friend with taking out her garbage.  She was taking out her garbage as we were just walking in her house and he would tell me to take it from her and give her a hand.  I actually had the gumption to ask him why he would do this.  There is some things that just can't get past a hollowed out husk.  "Oh, its because you are selfish, you need to learn to not be selfish."  This was his way of teaching me I guess.  But it was abuse, plain and simple.

My first ex-husband would expect his dinner after partying with his friends.  He would steal the little bit of money I had,   I remember once I had a $100 in my purse.  I was excited that I was going to fill the freezer, the fridge and all the cupboards.  When I went to get the money out, only $40 remained. He admitted to taking some.  He thought he was good and behaved for not taking it all.  Then he beat the crap out of me for saying anything.  He went back to his party and left me unconscious on the floor with 2 little children playing in the livingroom.  When I woke up, I was grateful to God that they somehow managed to stay put.

My second ex-husband, well, he was "much better".  No partying, no drinking, he was better behaved and didn't hit me.  He just always threatened to.  But he slept all the time, well most of the time.  Or watching tv, or eating or masturbating or watching porn.  I got blamed for this because I was never there for him.  But I will admit I was closed off, I was in survival mode.  I'll tell you that when I get in survival mode, it isn't lovely.  I wasn't amazingly wonderful either.  But I was alone.  When he was up out of bed, or not watching tv, about cutting me down.  And all his cut downs were somehow "logical".  I have to admire the creative, ingenious way narcs are so logical.  That's why I said way back in the beginning don't trust your logic.  Trust your emotions.  If someone says something to me I don't feel good about, it doesn't matter how it sounds, just how it made me feel.

We were poor and he had no want of making anything better.  Or trying.  He never tried.  I can't excuse him for being poor because he didn't care or want more.  He seemed to wear the poverty as a trophy, as did my mother.  There was no consideration for eachother.  And I couldn't reach out to him either.  Who could reach out and hug a snake?  We weren't poor "together".  I needed togetherness but he wouldn't give it.  He was charming and everyone said he was wonderful.  His malignant narcissism made him a very charming person.  And me into the awful abuser because I expected him to try to get a job.

I'd obtain really great jobs, making piles of money, but I couldn't keep them.  I was a mess and it wouldn't take long for that to be discovered.  At first employers saw that I was smart and that I obtained an education in engineering.  Well, then the rest was horrible.  I had no ability to function as a normal person in a normal world.

Let me tell you something.  I met some real down to earth wonderful and actual poor people on line. These people had good educations too, but somehow we tend to walk around with holes in our gathering baskets. Unable to rise to the top.  This was all caused by an abusive childhood.  I realized right away I only loved my mother in theory, because I was supposed to.  The real authentic me couldn't stand that creep.

Yes, I have been poor most of my life.  I have earned up to $50 an hour.  Does that make sense?

I was a math whiz, I was the cream of the crop.  Mother was so jealous she destroyed it.  Who knows what advances I could have made in the world, that disgusting pig took it all.  (this is nothing against pigs, on the farm I knew they were wonderful mothers).  All for a whoring miserable twat.

Sigh, I wish I could just make a clean blog, I really do.

When I ran here to this man I'm with now(in survival mode) I could never have known what the heck I was getting myself into.  He could have been one evil bastard, and could have killed me.  In no way was I capable of having a good relationship.  I drew in only the con artists.  But I guess this time God showed me some mercy.

And no, he is not perfect.  In fact he can be hard at times.  If I am suffering from something, he seems to get to the heart of the issue.  When I cry about something, he gets quiet and listens for my next cue to tell him what to do.  And no one thinks he's a nice guy.  Awesome.  He is not a nice guy, he really isn't.

I'm darn proud of this treasure I found.  He is not poor but I would love him like crazy even if he was. The time I met him, he was going through his divorce, which he made sure his ex got next to nothing. Oh no.  This is a real a-hole.

I suppose he is.  He is a bit of an a-hole at times.  and I love it.  I have someone I can talk to and depend on.  Yes, his ex didn't take him for everything.  She said she was going to, she tried, she said she was going to take him for everything.  But all she did fell through.

And you know, my best MN ex friend told me, "Well, he's a bastard, imagine he will do the same to you, you don't have any control over this man, he is too strong."

Too strong?  Is that even possible.  Ok, he would do the same thing to me.  I know I have to be ok with that.  We can't have this sense of entitlement, its covered all over my relationship site.  In fact, everything is threatened by loss.  You can't have a relationship without a deep understanding of the man.  And that I do.  He's not the type to let someone take him for all he's got, he's not.  I wouldn't care if he was poor in fact, but I do want this guy regardless of anything.  Him, all of him, each and everyday and I get to have him.  I didn't get to have my ex's, I didn't.  I had no part of them.

He is my protector, he has shown me that in every way.  He even stands up to me, takes no crap from me.  I know I'm hypervigilante, I can't seem to function past that for now, but he knows when something is real from me or when it is not.  He has keen insight.  He knows when I'm trying to cover.  He also treats his subordinates at work with clear respect.  He's one of those who holds people accountable, he's someone to learn from.

My gosh, has he been such a gift to me.  He is a gift, I don't walk around feeling entitled.  His love is a gift and so is his very presence.  He gives me everything, I don't have no need to feel entitled about it.

All I want is everything, pure and simple.  But I had to earn this relationship it didn't come easy.  All he seems to really want is to be accepted and that I do.  We don't worry about bills or poverty, but if we did he would deprive himself to make sure that I had what I need.  He is like that.  Unlike the "sweet" guy.  I'm tired of the "sweet" guys.  He is not a sweet guy and I'm grateful for that.  That means he never is out for appearances, he never cares about that.  He does not see my vulnerability as something to trample on either.  He loves the truth.

As poor as stale dirt was I.  I remember the stigma of that, it still hurts to this day, and I can't escape it.  When you want something, you can't have it.  It would be a way my ex would call me selfish if ever I wanted something.  Throw it in my face the selfish word.  I have heard that word before and it made me behave.  I was brainwashed with it.  Even though we had state of the art tv sets and computers.  We sacrificed basic needs to have these.  He was in charge.  I remember not having any shampoo for weeks at a time.  Just used bar soap.  I have washed the laundry with  just plain water at times, no money for detergent.  My ex told me it was good for me, use my elbow grease to take out the stains.  BUT WE HAD A STATE OF THE ART SOUND SYSTEM, AND TV THOUGH, and cable tv, we coudn't afford.

Even now, its hard for me to get my needs met.  I can't just ask for things, and men don't understand anything that isn't direct talk.  "Take out the garbage,"  can't just say it stinks in the kitchen.  This is the trouble I go through now.  I've tried "hinting" at things, that never works.  I know normal women have this problem with men, ACON women, much worse, I think, at least for me because I was called selfish all my life.

He is a great man but I can moan and groan on the couch about something and he doesn't understand until I "spill the beans".  Oh, how I hate that.  It feels uncomfortable.  It's hard for me to speak, I told him that, and he understands.  But he doesn't.  I'm a little angry at him right now, so I don't want to say too much into that.

Mother always called me selfish, even for no reason.  It was always there and it burns a hole right through me.  There is one thing to be poor, and another thing when poverty is used against you.  I've had that happen to me always.  I've been hurt and screwed over because of it.

You know I couldn't hold down a job.  I didn't know why.  When I wasn't working I was in counselling, that was my life.  I always tried so hard, to no avail, till now.  Well, anyway, my ex's family used to bash me over it.  Never him, always me.  He would never stand up for me.  He would never take care of me, he would revel in their unkindness.  They might have held me at a higher standard than him but I really have to wonder if its because I was a target, an easy target.  How come there is a part of a hollowed out husk that still feels?  How come?   How come I never got used to it.

I think that's a gift now.  It's by feeling that I was able to find my way through.  Too bad, it took so long.  I blamed God.  How the heck could have let this happen?  I have worshipped him for all my life, and this seemed like a huge joke.

Nothing is worse than finding out you were a victim of emotional child abuse.  It was a horror, there is nothing worse than this.  I know my prayer times are unsteady, my bible reading is inconsistent, but I do try.  And I found out that ACON's have problems with simple things such as self care, brushing their teeth.  How could prayer and bible study be any different than self care?  But I was always blaming myself for these things.

What the heck did I do to deserve this?  Mother doesn't even deserve any form of existence, how come she exists?  Ok, let them be narcs, but don't let them raise children.  I think of my youngest daughter and its just a blur.

My good FOO was only a figment of my imagination.  If I realized that as a child I would have seen the truth.  It was easier to believe lies.  no, it wasn't easier to believe lies, lies were what I was taught. Mother was the only one screaming in our household though, we weren't a whole household of narcs.

God is actually trying to tell me why it is this way.  Maybe I'm not ready to listen just yet.  I think He still wants me to grieve it some more.  But how the heck could I have lived a life of being blamed, and never having control over it.

I know there will come a day when we are all in heaven and all is said and done, and it won't matter a million years into eternity who the heck my parents were.  But for me, and now, this sucks.  I never stopped believing in God and all He is capable of so we'll see what He does.

Ok, I do forgive God, not that He needs my forgiveness, because in His way and in His time he will even this all out.

So anyway, back to poverty.  I've been hurt by it, cast aside by others by it, had an ex MN friend who loved me in poverty.  So did my mother.  She told me all the time, I would be poor all my life. Really mother? She seemed to enjoy saying that.  She never had any intention but to see me spend my life in anything but poverty or killed by an abusive man.  She set me up for life.  I realize she is a murderer although she didn't get it accomplished.  It would have happened.  Maybe that is what God wanted to show me, that He kept me alive, I don't know.

Even though I spent most of my life malnourished from poverty, I seem to have excellent health.  Ok, maybe that is one consolation.  Not all ACON's have that though.  Some have to face a lifelong illness and poverty.  Some have someone to hold through it, some don't.

A life of poverty takes it's toll.  I would like to say that "we" struggled through tough times, but I never had a "we".  It was always up to me to figure out how to put food on the table, I never had a man.  Nowadays, if the tv or computer konks out, I do NOTHING.  Yay, I never wanted to be the independent woman.  I want that to be taken care of for me.  It kinda feels like being treated like a queen.  Before with my ex's it was all up to me.  I was expected to be independent.

I didn't plan on being poor, it was all a set up.  I think that if you are an ACON and you are poor, your parents set it up this way, just as surely as they set the table.  How do you find your way out of it?  I don't know.  I have no answers.  I would like to set up a program, and try to figure it out for everyone.

I was set up to fail in life, even to die.  The bitch didn't win. (ok I know I want a clean blog, I might start posting recipes of cupcakes soon, just kidding.)

6 comments:

  1. Wow on your awakening day. I found the parrish article detailing the narc mother and almost passed out, I had my answer. I was excited to escape the world and find the whole new world to explore too. I didn't know what was coming to me! I may post to this article of yours in a new article, hope you do not mind.
    I too never was around any poor people either until I became one. So it looks like both of us were left totally unprepared. I am one of the poor and have been one for years, they are not the OTHER, they are me. LOL but I remember that time when I was a kid and the poor were these indescribable people to me.

    I am glad you work at a food bank, sorry you see so much pain and try your best. Yes some are degrading to the clients. I once got a bag of cans so dented I was scared to eat from any of them fearing botulism. I don't mean a few dings, I mean where the can was almost bent in half. I could tell this Salvation Army was telling me to stay the hell away for good. One lady told us, you have to come in for a budgeting class. Supposedly I was shopping til I dropped instead of boiling cabbage and needed to learn to "budget". How do you budget nothing?

    There is endless shame in being poor. I think I will write about it and how scapegoats are made poor. I always said its not the going without it's the stigma of the poverty.

    I don't like how the food banks are run here, kind of like the police state, show your ID. Given 4 days of food but told you can only come back once a month and they always always give allergic me macaroni and cheese and cans of tuna. If I eat tuna it means the hospital. Whoever sat down in my state and decided the poor have to live on nothing but starches, canned corn and tuna fish? The only meats ever are chicken quarters and hotdogs. I have yet to see a fresh vegetable at a food pantry that's why I laughed at the imagined ones on Sesame Street. I hope yours is doing a better job. When we get poor, I feel like I am going to have noodles coming out of my ears.

    I understand making things out of flour. I even ate ramen noodles and mayonnaise and curry powder this week, with a cut up hotdog in it. I am sure some fat phobes would judge me terribly for that one. Over the last couple of months I have boiled cabbage like Charlie's parents in Willi Wonka.

    I don't talk much at the food bank. Kind of in Aspie mode, I say hello and goodbye. I got one of those questionaires too asking me yesterday, "Why do you need us?" I wrote "Bad health problems, not enough money and bills that are crushing me". They get a bit out there checking IDs like someone in the middle of winter is going to want to go rip off the food bank for a box of corn flakes.

    I am sorry you faced poverty with the exs. I fear becoming a divorced woman from poverty alone. We love each other, but the 20 years of struggling and worse struggles the last 7 have wore me out. I can understand some even with the love, saying they can't take it anymore. I barely can. If you love each other you worry you are drowning each other and that is a certain other kind of guilt. I seem to have enough of that in spades lately.

    Women want to feel protected and taken care of. Especially women who have come out of narcissistic families. I have to say I would like to feel protected one day. My husband tries but this world seems to just want to grind us both down to nothing.

    Sorry he abused you and bossed you into taking someone else trash out. I would have told him that was the man's job to do it.

    It is horrible the abuse you went through. So sorry this happened, the stealing of money and beatings. So happy you got out of that.

    The second husband sounds like a slug. Maybe he was depressed or just using you. I feel bad that on your second go around it went this way.

    Yes listen to those feelings inside and those warning.

    continuing..

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    1. Sorry jobs went bad for you. I know my functioning was hard. I got disabled cloaking all the years through college and into the jobs. All the social stuff, fake smiles and still told I wasn't good enough. I just made it as a teacher but then they always had lay offs to give you and time to toss you into the gutter, and I got turned down for the good decent paying regular district jobs due to bad health.

      Love the phrase "holes in our gathering baskets". Unable to rise to the top. I know I am missing something, every day lately feels like a struggle just to get out of bed and stay alive from the health problems. I spent some hours crying from mouth pain yesterday--long story, severe thrush.


      Hey they wanted us poor and destroyed. My mothers best friend worked for a state department of education [VERY HIGH UP] as I begged for teaching jobs and got turned down everywhere after I was laid off from my alternative school art teacher job and it's grant ending. I had the right certification, paperwork, references, good record, health was negligible, but I was left with no options, this is when I moved to Chicago to be a residential counselor to avoid the streets. So yes, I see exactly what you are talking about and oh, I was called a loser then for losing my job and also for it being 30 hours a week instead of 40 and the grant ending and one thing still freaks me out to this day, how she always got what she wanted and me I was always left behind.

      Desperate people will be open to the predators. The only reason I did not become an abused wife, is my Aspergers screened out the severe abusers, but I did end up with someone else with severe challenges. It's hard. I am glad you have your third husband and are not poor anymore. My biggest problem has to do with returning to the dregs again, that we had dug ourselves out of once before. I fell in the hole not once but twice.

      Yes that was abusive for the first one to deny you soap and the rest. Ugh.

      Don't listen to the ones who call you selfish. I've been sick long enough, that selfishness I guess is something I had to acquire to live so this ceased to be a problem. We all have needs and the right to get them met. .

      I pray for your healing and glad you never lost faith in God.


      Yes the poverty takes a toll, the narcs get the poverty bus rolling very early for us. Some dig their way out, and some well, it's far harder.

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  2. At our food bank we leave those terrible bent up cans in a box, if someone wants to take them or not. They are not part of the regular supply. We do have some fresh vegetables and fruits. We don't just give out noodles, we go across the food groups, although most are in cans unfortunately. We do hope that this allows the people to purchase fresh produce, a little more breathing room in the budget perhaps.

    We don't ask degrading questions. Who seriously abuses food banks? When I used them they were hard to get to, and I wouldn't if I didn't need to. All for a couple of bags of groceries.

    You can use my article. I want this as public as possible.

    Budgeting problems? That's silly, but I know that's what happens to the big city food banks. Seriously we have a lady here using it once a month, she goes to school, she has a couple of kids. She needs this to stretch out her budget, not demoralize her. I see nothing wrong with needing food banks to stretch out the budget. Perhaps you need to buy socks or underwear or something. But I know some people couldn't survive without it.

    I know your husband works very hard, and he would never leave you stranded unconscious on the floor. I'm sure he gives you his everything. That is all I wanted from a husband. Everyone should have a Mr. Peeps.

    My second husband wouldn't work. I took him to get help but every doctor said he was fine, and yes, he did have struggles. He might be working a job, and one cough would put him back into bed for weeks. I got him to a psychologist who said this was the way he wanted it. He actually has the mentality of a teenager. That was the diagnosis. But it was his narcissism that drove me away, he was abusive. I would have stayed with him if it wasn't. But one counsellor did say that he needed to give you all he could and that was abuse in itself.

    I couldn't even imagine my current husband doing this stuff. Or ordering me around in front of others. To take out someone else's garbage, I hated that. But I must say we worked hard to get here. I used to treat him like he would abuse me at any time. He almost abandoned me over it.

    I'm glad you didn't end up with an abuser. I guess Aspberger's (sp?) does have an upside. It may have been a gift. We sometimes can't always interpret the gifts I think.

    I'm sure you were a wonderful teacher. But yes it was the child abuse that kept us down. I'm actually writing now about hypervigilance, and its very hard, I'm digging up my emotions.

    I don't worry about being called selfish anymore. I've researched a little, and it ties into wanting to be accepted, cause you know as a kid, being accepted was life, or die. It's hard in relationships though. Really hard. I see how I've been set up to be abused in life, even killed.

    I do have a hard time getting my needs met. My current husband says, "Just spill it please, this drives me nuts."

    God will always be my life.

    On another note, its remarkable how our NM's can revel in our poverty and such. That's murder, they want us dead. I think about that everytime.

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  3. Oh and we don't do income statements, or stuff like that. We just do a health card with your name on it, and if you've given it once you are good for life. From then on we just ask you your name and that gets written down.

    Its a small little town, and a clothing place in the same building. The clothes are for free, and take what you want and no one guards it. The town is like a western movie. Only, we are in the north and its cold up here. But so much compassion for the poor, I've never seen in the city, or anywhere else for that matter. We don't even divide the food up, the person gets everything untampered. I know how important this is for the poor. My kids would never touch pill bottles of ketchup.

    I used to think it was impossible not to divide up the food, but I now know it works.

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  4. You guys are seriously inspiring me tonight. Thanks for fixing your food bank, Joan. The one I used to go to we got white bread products, cookies, and canned ham (even though I said I was vegetarian). For some odd reason, the canned ham was frozen. I ended up giving most away to other poor folk. In San Francisco, things seem to have got better in terms of places like Trader Joe's donating. Still, asian women sell the food bank items on the street so they can go buy normal asian veg! It's like a hive up there, but everyone has some posotion in the hive and it seems to work out.
    All I know is that I've been through it all and left the last slug-man 3 years ago. Still afraid to even be interested in anyone, but won't settle for dumb slugs ever again. They feed off of our energy. It's a 3rd world behavior, and this 3rd world exists right in the middle of the USA.
    Stick to your guns and stick to the real men-right?-if you can find one. Forge on, dear ladies, forge on!

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  5. They should make changes when necessary. The only thing we really can't do is gluten free pasta. It will expire before it is gone. Unless it gets donated, but not a normal part of the list. Frozen canned ham? I don't know if that will be any good.

    The sluggish men, yeah, did feed off my energy. I was depended on to be the man, and that was hard. I'm not masculine.

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